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	<title>Comments on: Do You Trust Your Elders?</title>
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		<title>By: Reid</title>
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		<description>Robert, your post makes me think.

It makes me think about how my church leaders have ignored me and how they have spent no time trying to help me when I cry out for help to  them. Lately I have been going through a tough time as far as decisions I have to make in my life. I have called 3 pastors and emailed 3 more only to get no response whatsoever. Where is my church leaders when I need them&gt;? What is their job? I am in a situation where I need to respect my parents as elders, yet I feel God&#039;s calling to me to do something that might undermind my parent&#039;s best interests. I have no elders to help me, and apart of it is that I moved to college now, but that is besides the point. I wonder what is the job of the elders if they are not to help a 20 year old on the brink of some key decisions in his life, maybe even becoming a missionary? It maybe wrong, but I have a tough time respecting Pastors/elders if they don&#039;t even have the decentsy to take 2 minutes of their time to call me back and share their wonderful wisdom with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, your post makes me think.</p>
<p>It makes me think about how my church leaders have ignored me and how they have spent no time trying to help me when I cry out for help to  them. Lately I have been going through a tough time as far as decisions I have to make in my life. I have called 3 pastors and emailed 3 more only to get no response whatsoever. Where is my church leaders when I need them>? What is their job? I am in a situation where I need to respect my parents as elders, yet I feel God&#8217;s calling to me to do something that might undermind my parent&#8217;s best interests. I have no elders to help me, and apart of it is that I moved to college now, but that is besides the point. I wonder what is the job of the elders if they are not to help a 20 year old on the brink of some key decisions in his life, maybe even becoming a missionary? It maybe wrong, but I have a tough time respecting Pastors/elders if they don&#8217;t even have the decentsy to take 2 minutes of their time to call me back and share their wonderful wisdom with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Williams</title>
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		<description>Your elders should be there to watch over you spiritually.  IMHO, this ought to include providing Biblical advice to you, either directly, or by pointing you to someone who can serve you better.

If your elders are not men you believe to be spiritually mature and good shepherds, you need to think hard about whether or not it makes sense for you to continue under their leadership.

I do not believe it&#039;s wise for people to remain under the leadership of elders who they don&#039;t respect.  And from the language of your comment (and corresponding posts on your blog), you don&#039;t seem to have a lot of respect for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your elders should be there to watch over you spiritually.  IMHO, this ought to include providing Biblical advice to you, either directly, or by pointing you to someone who can serve you better.</p>
<p>If your elders are not men you believe to be spiritually mature and good shepherds, you need to think hard about whether or not it makes sense for you to continue under their leadership.</p>
<p>I do not believe it&#8217;s wise for people to remain under the leadership of elders who they don&#8217;t respect.  And from the language of your comment (and corresponding posts on your blog), you don&#8217;t seem to have a lot of respect for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Reid</title>
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		<description>First off, I have the upmost respect for Church leaders and their positions and my elders. I respect that they are striving to please God and to serve him.

This in no way makes it so that I cannot disagree with how they are running things and how they are treating me as a person. I can disagree without being disrespectful and sometimes It has to be in a manor that gets the attention of certain people.

When Paul confronted Peter, a church leader, about not eating with the Gentiles, was Paul not straight forward, blunt and to the point? Was he not Nailing the nail on the head? A lot of people would say that it was disrespectful, and i dont agree.  Some people take me the wrong way because I am bold in how I write and I am not afraid to call out those who I feel in my heart need to be called out. People mistake this with being disrespectful and its not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I have the upmost respect for Church leaders and their positions and my elders. I respect that they are striving to please God and to serve him.</p>
<p>This in no way makes it so that I cannot disagree with how they are running things and how they are treating me as a person. I can disagree without being disrespectful and sometimes It has to be in a manor that gets the attention of certain people.</p>
<p>When Paul confronted Peter, a church leader, about not eating with the Gentiles, was Paul not straight forward, blunt and to the point? Was he not Nailing the nail on the head? A lot of people would say that it was disrespectful, and i dont agree.  Some people take me the wrong way because I am bold in how I write and I am not afraid to call out those who I feel in my heart need to be called out. People mistake this with being disrespectful and its not.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Williams</dc:creator>
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		<description>You say this: &lt;i&gt;I have the upmost respect for Church leaders and their positions and my elders.&lt;/i&gt;

But you also say this: &lt;i&gt;It maybe wrong, but I have a tough time respecting Pastors/elders if they don?t even have the decentsy to take 2 minutes of their time to call me back and share their wonderful wisdom with me.&lt;/i&gt;

And you also wrote: &lt;i&gt;What is your job as a pastor? Are you too busy for a 19 year old who has some questions? I guess so.&lt;/i&gt;

There seems to be a little bit of a contradiction here.  Either you &quot;have a tough time respecting&quot; them or you &quot;have the utmost respect&quot; for them.  You can&#039;t have it both ways.

&lt;i&gt;I can disagree without being disrespectful&lt;/i&gt;

You &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt;, but you&#039;re &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt;.  At least, not the way you&#039;re communicating it here.

&lt;i&gt;When Paul confronted Peter&lt;/i&gt;

You are not Paul, and this is nothing like Peter&#039;s sin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say this: <i>I have the upmost respect for Church leaders and their positions and my elders.</i></p>
<p>But you also say this: <i>It maybe wrong, but I have a tough time respecting Pastors/elders if they don?t even have the decentsy to take 2 minutes of their time to call me back and share their wonderful wisdom with me.</i></p>
<p>And you also wrote: <i>What is your job as a pastor? Are you too busy for a 19 year old who has some questions? I guess so.</i></p>
<p>There seems to be a little bit of a contradiction here.  Either you &#8220;have a tough time respecting&#8221; them or you &#8220;have the utmost respect&#8221; for them.  You can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
<p><i>I can disagree without being disrespectful</i></p>
<p>You <i>can</i>, but you&#8217;re <i>not</i>.  At least, not the way you&#8217;re communicating it here.</p>
<p><i>When Paul confronted Peter</i></p>
<p>You are not Paul, and this is nothing like Peter&#8217;s sin.</p>
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